So I was 30 years old and I have never taken a single business class, and I’d never taken any marketing classes, and I've never used, at the time it wasn't PowerPoint, it was called "Persuasion" - on the Mac it was called "Persuasion." And so I bought a Mac so I could use Persuasion and I'd try to create a company presentation to take it to venture capitalists. The process kind of went like this: I started my first official day of work was my 30th birthday, February 17th. And we got the company funded, and so once we got started the question is what are we going to do, how does it all work out? How do we start the company? And so we met everyday, the three of us, in one of the founders' townhouse in Fremont and we would get together and there will be nothing to do. What do you do? You got three guys who get together you just talk. So, what do you guys do last night you know? What do you have for dinner? You talk about that for about six months. And the big event of the day would be, "Hey, where you guys want to go for lunch?" Philly cheese steaks today, Chinese food tomorrow or whatever, that would be a big deal. And then after a while it was like, "Could you put some doughnuts in the fridge in the morning for when we come?" So that would be a big deal for a while. And so that lasted for a few months, just the three of us like that. I know is sounds pathetic but it's true. Because at that time, I'm reading about books on how to start companies. I'm trying to figure out how to go raise money and what's a venture capitalist, and how do you incorporate the company, those kinds of things. And pretty soon I met a lawyer. Went to a law firm called Cooley Godward and they helped us incorporate the company. And the amount of money that he said, "We need some money from you so that we could price the shares and also to incorporate the company." So he says, "How much money do you have in your pocket?" I said, "$200." So he says, "Okay, give me $200," I gave ...