I would say that one surprising thing is that people really — when they are very powerful and very experienced, it’s amazing how hard it is to change, in terms of the reactions and behavior. That is one thing that I learned over time. The other thing has to do with my management style. If you want to go for speed, and thoughtful speed, then you have to trade off between a lot of discussion and analysis versus going with the gut. So in order to do that, what I have is a phrase that summarizes the methodology, we call brutal intellectual honesty. What it is: there's too many decisions to make, there's too little time. And in order to not just use your guts, sometimes your gut's wrong, then you have very precious time to retract. What you want is to get all the facts and opinions and wisdom out on the table, have a really honest debate about it, given a limited period of time. And then at the end of that period of time, you say, "Okay, I have enough opinions and facts, let's make a decision and go." In that process, you need people to be very thick-skinned. Because I feel that if you look into a lot of situations, people get bogged down into very emotional arguments or political situations and so on, when they have projected out a theory or a certain way of doing things, a certain architecture and so on. And they put the passion, which is good, and the ego, which is dangerous. And then you see people locking it, and they get themselves into a position that they cannot back off. And then they have to find all kinds of ways either to face, lobby the other people to support them and so on, or save face. That is incredibly time wasting. And if you recall, this time is the only competitive resource that we have in our hands. We cannot allow that to happen. So what I encourage is people to be thick-skinned about it and put everything out, and don't defend it with your ego, and let intellectual honesty dictate. And that's what it is. And the brutal par...
I would say that one surprising thing is that people really — when they are very powerful and ...